Neitzel, Sonke; Harald Welzer; Jefferson Chase (tr.);
Soldaten: on Fighting, Killing, and Dying : The secret World War II transcripts of German POWs
Simon and Schuster, 2012, 448 pages
ISBN 0307958159, 9780307958150
topics: | war | military | psychology |
This is a book based on the private discussions that German soldiers had amongst themselves after they had been captured by Allied forces. The conversations were surreptitiously recorded - (is this allowed by Geneva Convention?) - and now all these transcripts have been declassified.
The work is not a history, but more a sociology, of war. One of the main points, wwith which many people in the Anglo-American world may feel uncomfortable, is that there was nothing that different about the Nazi soldiers - they were just operating within a "frame of reference" - a theoretical construct in sociology, sort of like "worldview", which was not that much different from many soldiers in many other wars.
There are some vague demarcation for four "orders" in the frame of reference, from the first order (very broadly shared) to the fourth, which is specific to an individual. [Harald Welzer is a social psychologist]
The authors seek to find the worldviews that were shared among the soldiers, and if there were some aspects specific to Nazi Germany. Many actions, unacceptable in normal times, need to be permitted in war, and attitudes toward killing in general has to be different. Hwever, some others, including the holocaust, were not quote so readily accepted.
The overall argument seems to be that despite the excesses of the war, much of this was a matter of scale - quantity rather than quality, Comparing with other wars, such as Vietnam, reveal many similarities. One of the sources cited is Bernd Greiner's War Without Fronts: The USA in Vietnam, a 2010 work based on extensive research and unprecedented access to US Army archives, wshich identifies many forms of war crimes perpetrated by the US.
Late in the book, the authors describe the video Collateral murder, released by Wikileaks, whe US soldiers in an Apache helicopter are shown killing 18 people in all, including two Reuters reporters who are carrying cameras with big lenses. These are mis-identified as rocket-propelled grenade [RPG], and the reporters, as well as many bystanders including two children in a van, are killed. US SOLDIER 2: Sorry, hahaha, I hit ’em — Roger. ... US SOLDIER 1: Oh, yeah, look at those dead bastards. US SOLDIER 2: Nice. Good shootin’. And many more in a similar vein. At the time, this caused wide revulsion and raised the stock for Wikileaks. However, this type of behaviour is not very uncommon during wars. One of the commentaries on the video came from Josh Stieber, a conscientious objector who was then assigned to the same Company (Bravo 2-16) : Not to justify what they did, but militarily speaking, they did exactly what they were trained to do...If we’re shocked by this video, we need to be asking questions of the larger system, because this is how these soldiers were trained to act.... I’m told that doing these things is in the best interest of my own country. I think about one exercise. Some of my leaders would ask the younger soldiers what they would do if somebody were to pull a weapon in a marketplace full of unarmed civilians. And not only did your response have to be that you would return fire, even if you knew it was going to hurt innocent civilians, ... the answer had to be yes, but it had to be an instantaneous yes. So, again, these things are just hammered into you through military training. - democracynow.org This comment comes very close to the points made at the heart of the analysis of these conversations among German solciers. Clearly, they see nothing wrong in discussing many of their acts with their mates. The book makes a case very similar to that of Josh Stieber, invoking the notion that each of these soldiers was playing a social role in terms of what others around him expected him to do. This, together with the overall situation of war, created the various frames of reference within which each person operated. Thus, within their frames of reference, many things like having sex with jewish women whom they themseovles would soon shoot, was ok. However, some things - including the holocaust - were not. AMBERGER: I once spoke to a Feldwebel who said: “This mass-shooting of Jews absolutely sickens me. This murdering is no profession! Hooligans can do that.” As we see below, the German frame of reference also did not condone the treatment of the Russian POWs, some 50% of whom were starved to death by the Wehrmacht, (whereas the mortality of Anglo-American POWs was only about 2%).
In the end the book asks some deeper questions about the mental attitudes in war. What questions can we ask of the "larger system" behind wars? In trying to see how to answer this, let me digress for a moment on the personal experience of violence. In his Violence: six sideways reflections Slavoj Zizek ruminates on how systemic violence becomes invisible, "like the notorious 'dark matter' of physics". Early on in this book, the authors make remark on "the extraordinary abstinence from violence in modern society" - this is in contrast to the widespread state violence in pre-modern times, where it was licensed by the aristocracy.
I can't help quote this fascinating example of state violence, from recent decades. This is a story of the Tumandar, or chief, of the Baloch people, who live in the semi-desert regions of Baluchistan (and Turkmenistan). The Tumandar, until he was killed by the Pakistan army in 2006, was the Oxford educated Nawab Akbar Bugti. In the 1960s, he had a conversation with Sylvia Matheson, who reports it in her "Tigers of Balochistan" (1967). At one point, he calmly states how he had killed his first man at the age of twelve. Later, Matheson returns to this bald comment: SM: “About this man you killed — er, why?” AB : “Oh that!” he responded as he sipped his tea, “Well, the man annoyed me. I’ve forgotten what it was about now, but I shot him dead. I’ve rather a hasty temper you know, but under tribal law of course it wasn’t a capital offence, and, in any case, as the eldest son of the Chieftain I was perfectly entitled to do as I pleased in our own territory. We enjoy absolute sovereignty over our people and they accept this as part of their tradition. Living in the 21st century, it is hard to imagine an era when the state had such a monopoly on violence. During war, we reach a point that is closer to these experiences of the past. "Collateral" deaths become a way of life.
Undoubtedly, the arguments in this book apply to thousands of conflicts - including the behaviour of our own soldiers against the civilians in Kashmir and elsewhere. With the rise in cross-cultural violence, from the Naxal Santhals to insurgents in Kashmir and in Iraq, violence is everywhere. And we hide in our pastel-painted drawing rooms, and pay for "soldiers" to do the dirty work and maintain our order in the universe. Are they following civilized rules? Of course not. The way out does not seem to be to change how armies work, for they are designed to kill. The only thing that will resolve this would be to work for greater inclusion of the have-nots in the wealth of the world. There are a million acts of violence that our state (and our world) perpetrates on the underprivileged, on those that think differently. It is time we listened to the Taliban and the Naxals and the Palestinians and all the others, and tried to understand their problems, instead of letting loose an army on them. Maybe the world is listening, maybe it is not.
Over the course of the war, the British intelligence service had systematically subjected thousands of German and hundreds of Italian POWs to covert surveillance, recording passages from conversations they found particularly interesting on wax records and making protocols of them. The protocols had survived the war in their entirety and had been declassified in 1996. But in the years that followed, no one had recognized their value as historical source material. Undiscovered, they were left hibernating on the archive shelves. In 2003, I published the first excerpts, and two years later a book edition followed containing some two hundred protocols from conversations among German generals. But I had still only made scant progress in evaluating and interpreting this source material. A short time later, I discovered a similar collection of material—some 100,000 pages’ worth, twice as extensive as the British files—in the National Archives in Washington, D.C. It was clear that there was no way I could process this seemingly infinite quantity of material on my own.
I was speechless when Sönke Neitzel called me and told me about the source material he had found. Previously we had been forced to base our research on perceptions of violence and the willingness to kill on very problematic sources: official investigations, letters from the field, eyewitness reports, and memoirs. The shortcoming of all these statements, reports, and descriptions was that they were consciously composed and addressed to someone specific: a prosecutor, a wife at home, or an audience the authors wanted to win over. When POWs spoke among themselves in the camps, they did so without any such agenda.
MÜLLER: When I was at KHARKIV the whole place had been destroyed, except the centre of the town. It was a delightful town, a delightful memory! Everyone spoke a little German—they’d learnt it at school. At TAGANROG, too, there were splendid cinemas and wonderful cafés on the beach. We did a lot of flying near the junction of the Don and the Donetz.… It’s beautiful country; I travelled everywhere in a lorry. Everywhere we saw women doing compulsory labour service. FAUST: How frightful! MÜLLER: They were employed on road-making —- extraordinarily lovely girls; we drove past, simply pulled them into the armoured car, raped them and threw them out again. And did they curse! [continues describing his travel experiences] The two soldiers protocolled here, a Luftwaffe lance corporal and a sergeant, at times describe the Russian campaign like tourists, telling of “delightful” towns and memories. Then, suddenly, the story becomes about the spontaneous rape of female forced laborers. The sergeant relates this like a minor, ancillary anecdote, before continuing to describe his “trip.” ... human beings are never unbiased. Instead, they perceive everything through specific filters. Every culture, historical epoch, or economic system—in short every form of existence—influences the patterns of perception and interpretation and thus steers how individuals perceive and interpret experiences and events. The surveillance protocols reflect, in real time, how German soldiers saw and commonly understood World War II. Frames of reference vary drastically according to historical periods and cultures. Orthodox Muslims, for instance, categorize suitable and unsuitable sexual behavior within a completely different framework from that of secular inhabitants of Western society. Nonetheless, no member of either group is able to interpret what he sees outside references not of his own choice or making. Thus when we want to explain human behavior, we first must reconstruct the frame of reference in which given human beings operated, including which factors structured their perception and suggested certain conclusions. Merely analyzing objective circumstances is inadequate.
Frames of reference of the first order are the broad sociohistorical backdrop against which people of a given time operate. They include categories of good and evil and true and false, what is edible and what is not, how much distance we should maintain when speaking to one another, and what is polite or rude. Frames of the second order are more concrete in a historical, cultural, and often geographical sense. They comprise a sociohistorical space that, in most respects, can be clearly delimited — for instance, the length of a dictatorial regime or the duration of a historical entity like the Third Reich. 'Frames of the third order are even more specific. They consist of a concrete constellation of sociohistorical events within which people act. They include, for example, a war in which soldiers fight. Frames of the fourth order are the special characteristics, modes of perception, interpretative paradigms, and perceived responsibilities that an individual brings to a specific situation. This is the level of psychology, personal dispositions, and individual decision making. This book analyzes second- and third-order frames of reference since that is primarily what our source material allows us to best approach.
On August 2, 1914, Franz Kafka in Prague wrote in his diary: “Germany declared war on Russia—afternoon: swimming lessons.” This is just one particularly prominent example of events that later observers learn to see as historic not being perceived as such in the real time in which they come together. Only in retrospect do historians determine which events from a massive inventory of possibilities were “historical,” i.e., significant for the eventual way things turned out... Psychologists call this phenomenon “shifting baselines,” e.g. the radical alteration of normative standards under Nazism show how powerful they can be. ... People were under the impression that everything had basically stayed the same, even though fundamental change had occurred. Only in retrospect does a slow process, at least one perceived as slow, such as the breakdown of civilization, congeal into an abrupt event. For the same reason, many Jewish Germans did not recognize the dimensions of the process of exclusion of which they would become the victims. Instead many viewed Nazi rule as a short-term phenomenon that “one will have to get through, or a setback that one could accept, or at the worst a threat that restricted one personally, but that was still more bearable than the arbitrary perils of exile.” [Raul Hilberg, Täter, Opfer, Zuschauer: Die Vernichtung der Juden, 1933–1945 (Frankfurt/Main: Fischer, 1992), p. 138.]
The extraordinary abstinence from violence in modern society, the fact that the public and to a lesser degree the private spheres are relatively free from force, is the result of the civilizing influence of separation of state powers and the state’s monopoly on the legitimate use of force. These achievements have allowed for the enormous sense of security that is an integral part of modern societies. In premodern periods, people were far more likely to become the victims of direct physical violence than now. Violence was also far more present in the public sphere, for example, in the form of public punishments and executions. roles: gender, age, social origin, and education. People expect a different sort of behavior from an elderly lady than from a young male, even though there is no specific catalogue of dos and don’ts, to say nothing of laws. As members of society, all of us “know” such rules implicitly. Soldiers do not just learn how to use weapons and negotiate various types of terrain. They are taught to obey, to subjugate themselves to hierarchy, and to act on command at a moment’s notice. Total institutions establish a specific form of socialization, in which group norms and responsibilities have far more influence on individuals than under normal social conditions.
On October 30, 1938, CBS Radio in the United States interrupted its regular programming with a special announcement that there had been a gas explosion on the planet Mars and a cloud of hydrogen was speeding toward the earth. Then, during a radio reporter’s interview with an astronomy professor, aimed at clarifying the potential dangers, another announcement was made about a seismic catastrophe of earthquake strength, presumably the result of a meteor hitting our planet. A barrage of news flashes followed. Curiosity seekers at the site of impact reported being attacked by aliens who emerged from the crater. Further objects were said to be striking the earth’s surface, and hordes of little green men from Mars were pressing on with their attacks. The military had been deployed, with little success. The aliens were marching on New York. Warplanes took to the air. People began fleeing the danger zone. Panic was breaking out. At this point a change in frame of reference occurred. Up until the episode about the warplanes, the news reports were simply following the script of a radio play Orson Welles had adapted from H. G. Wells’s novel The War of the Worlds. But the people fleeing in panic were real. Among the six million Americans who had tuned in to Wells’s radio broadcast, two million of them believed every word they heard. Many of them hastily packed their things and ran out into the streets to escape the alleged alien gas attacks. Telephone lines were jammed for hours, and it took hours more until news got around that the whole thing was fictional. [NYT, 31 October 1938: “Radio Listeners in Panic, Taking War Drama as Fact,” reported an incident in which an entire block’s worth of people fled their apartments.] This legendary event, which established Orson Welles’s fame, vividly illustrated the truth of sociologist William I. Thomas’s 1917 theorem: “If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences.” No matter how objectively wrong or irrational people’s estimation of reality may be, the conclusions they draw create new realities. [Such interpretations occur in a frame of reference]
A complex interaction regarding the killing of Jews: BENTZ: When the Germans asked us if it was true about the atrocities in POLAND, we had to say that it was only a rumour. I am convinced that it’s all too true. It’s a shameful blot on our history. FRIED: Yes, the persecution of the Jews. ... I once took part in it myself, and it left rather an impression of—towards on [sic] me as an officer; during the Polish campaign, and I was making transport flights there. I had my midday meal with the Waffen S.S. battalion who were stationed there. An S.S. captain or whatever he was said: “Would you like to come along for half-an-hour? Get a tommy-gun and let’s go.” So I went along. I had an hour to spare and we went to a kind of barracks and slaughtered 1,500 Jews. That was during the war. There were some twenty men there with tommy-guns. It only took a second, and nobody thought anything of it. They had been attacked at night by Jewish partisans and there was a lot of indignation about those damned Poles. I thought about it afterwards — it wasn’t very “pleasant.” BENTZ: Were they only Jews? FRIED: Only Jews and a few partisans. BENTZ: They were driven past? FRIED: Yes. When I think about it here—it wasn’t very “pleasant.” BENTZ: What—you fired, too? FRIED: Yes, I did. Some of the people who were inside there said: “Here come the swine,” and swore and threw stones and things at them. There were women and children there, too! Clearly, Bentz feels that Germany took the "wrong attitude", whereas Fried, who agreed to participate in one event, is much more equivocal. However, though he participated willingly, the event is not completely acceptable even within his frame. He feels the need to justify it in terms of partisan attacks the night before. But in the end the frames of reference for these two soldiers are quite diffferent. the authors comment that: Fried's laconic remark that this was not “pleasant” might have meant that he didn’t enjoy killing as much as he thought he would. Or it might simply reflect the fact that he notices his interlocutor is critical of Jewish persecution. As is the case with the presence of picture-snapping tourists, the phenomenon of soldiers being invited, either alone or in groups, to execute Jews suggests that the people concerned required no period of adjustment before carrying out the most brutal kinds of acts.
“I was in an SS quarters -- [In a] room, there was an SS man lying on the bed, without his tunic but with his pants still on. Next to him, on the edge of the bed, was a very pretty young woman, and I saw her stroke the SS man’s chin. I heard her say: “You’re not going to shoot me, are you Franz?” The girl was still very young and spoke German without an accent -- I asked the SS man whether this girl was really going to be taken out and shot. He answered that all Jews were going to be shot. There were no exceptions -- He also said something to the effect that it was a bitter reality. Sometimes they had the chance to hand over these girls to another execution commando, but mostly there wasn’t the time. They had to do it themselves.” Sexual violence is a war crime people like to ascribe to the enemy. The mass rapes of German women by Red Army soldiers at the end of World War II are a standard element of Germans’ recollections of that conflict. The same, however, cannot be said of sexual crimes committed by the SS and the Wehrmacht. In this area, the myth of the honorable German fighter remains intact. Sociologist Regina Mühlhäuser has recently investigated the various sexual facets of the German invasion of the Soviet Union. They include not just sexual violations of women as the Wehrmacht occupied towns and villages and in the run-up to mass executions, but also the swapping of sex for favors and the relationships between soldiers and Ukrainian women, some of which resulted in pregnancies or marriages. It is hardly surprising that sex plays such a major role in war. Sexuality is one of the most important aspects of human existence, especially male human existence. ... Wartime soldiers are by and large youngish men who have been separated from their real or would-be partners and freed from many social restraints. When stationed in occupied areas, they are given the sort of an individual power they would never enjoy in civilian society. Moreover, the sexual opportunities presented by this situation occur within a reference frame of masculine camaraderie, in which bragging about sexual prowess is a normal part of everyday communication. After the above conversation, the speaker is asked: HARTELT: I bet she let you sleep with her too? MINNIEUR: Yes, but you had to take care not to be found out. It’s nothing new; it was really a scandal, the way they slept with Jewish women. [Its interesting how the last sentence is in third person.] It seems to have been common, accepted practice to execute Jewish women after sex so that soldiers would not have to worry about sanctions following a “racial crime,” In a study of the German occupation of parts of the Soviet Union, historian Andrej Angrick has determined that officers of SS Einsatzgruppe Sk 10a habitually raped Jewish women to the point where they fell unconscious.
While only 1 to 3 percent of Anglo-American POWs died in German captivity, 50 percent of Red Army prisoners perished — a figure that exceeded even the high numbers of Allied soldiers who died in Japanese captivity. German anecdotes about Soviet brutality stoked the violence already being perpetrated with the power of imagination. A Lieutenant Leichtfuss reported seeing six German soldiers nailed to a table through their tongues, ten hung up from meat hooks in a slaughterhouse, and twelve to fifteen who were thrown down a well in a small village and then stoned to death. In retaliation: LEICHTFUSS: These incidents were taken for a reason for repaying it tenfold, twenty and hundredfold, not in that crude and bestial manner, but simply in the following way. When a small detachment of about ten or fifteen men was captured there, it was too difficult for the soldier or the “Unteroffizier” to transport them back 100 or 120 km. They were locked in a room and three or four hand grenades were flung in through the window.165 [although it was not exactly known at the time, It is estimated that 90 to 95 percent of German POWs captured in Russia in 1941 also died. Most of them were executed directly at the front. This was an oft-repeated statement among the German soldiers - Christian Hartmann, Wehrmacht im Ostkrieg. Munich, 2009., p.542-9] The Wehrmacht decision to let Russian POWs starve to death, which soldiers discussed in the surveillance protocols, was something that went beyond the normally accepted boundaries of war and can only be understood in the context of the Nazi campaigns of annihilation. That is the reason why German POWs were disgusted at how Russian prisoners were being treated and even sympathized with them. GRAF: The infantry said that when they took the Russian P/W back, they had nothing to eat for three or four days and collapsed. Then the guard would just go up to one, hit him over the head and he was dead. The others set on him and cut him up and ate him as he was.17
The murder of POWs, the execution of civilians, massacres, forced labor, plunder, rape, the perfection of deadly technology, and the mobilization of society were all characteristics of World War II. But they were not new. New were the dimensions and the quality of these phenomena, which went beyond anything previously experienced in human history. In terms of the modern age, new was the revocation of limits on violence, culminating in the industrialized mass murder of European Jews. [But was the soldiers' mental frame much different than in otherr wars? Turns to the Collateral Murder video (Baghdad 2007). ] The video caused a sensation when it was illegally made public in 2010, since it depicted American GIs killing a group of defenseless civilians from the air without being in any real danger. Group thinking and mutual confirmation of what is perceived replaced the factual situation with an imagined one. Viewers watching the video now don’t see what the soldiers see. But the viewer doesn’t bear the burden of having to make decisions.Group thinking and mutual confirmation of what is perceived replaced the factual situation with an imagined one. Viewers watching the video now don’t see what the soldiers see. But the viewer doesn’t bear the burden of having to make decisions. Every suspicion... carries a fatal tendency to be confirmed by further indications.
The other side’s casualties are almost always regarded as fighters, partisans, terrorists, or insurgents. We recall here the rule among U.S. troops from the Vietnam War "If it’s dead and Vietnamese, it’s Vietcong," [Berd Greiner, _War Without Fronts: The USA in Vietnam (2010). The “Collateral Murder” video clearly illustrates how violence transforms a murky situation, in which men suffer from a lack of orientation and don’t know what to do, into something crystal clear. When all the targets are dead, order has been restored. Greiner cited a series of examples of the “self-evident” identification of enemies. The simplest one was that anyone who tried to flee was automatically an enemy who should be shot. The attempt to escape confirmed suspicions that an individual was a Vietcong. Somewhat more complicated is the discovery of “evidence.” When examining the surveillance protocols, we highlighted the story of the presence of ammunition being used to distinguish supposed partisans from civilians. The same procedure, however illogical it was, was applied in the Vietnam War, where GIs sometimes razed villages in which they had previously deposited Soviet-made ammunition as proof of a Vietcong presence there. The U.S. 9th Infantry Division killed a total of 10,899 people but only secured 748 weapons. That suggests that 14 civilians were murdered for every true Vietcong eliminated.
A guerilla war, where attacks can come suddenly from the most unexpected quarters, is disorienting. It was difficult for American soldiers in Vietnam to precisely identify enemies since the Vietcong waged a guerrilla war. Not knowing whether they were confronted with incognito fighters, men and women, or harmless civilians, created a huge challenge. The loss of orientation underscores the soldier's uncertainty. Fatally, violence is precisely the means by which orientation can be regained most simply, quickly, and unambiguously. A successful act of violence removes the gray areas. [This is why the Americans in Vietnam indulged in such excesses. ] But this was [also[ the reason why the Wehrmacht most often engaged in acts of extreme violence against innocent civilians in the context of fighting partisans.
Prologue vii Author's Note x 1 What the Soldiers Discussed 3 2 The Soldiers World 26 3 Fighting, Killing, and Dying 44 4 Frame of Reference: Annihilation 120 5 Sex 164 6 Technology 176 7 Faith in Victory 193 8 Ideology 228 9 Success 274 10 Frame of Reference: War 317 11 How National Socialist was the Wehrmacht's War? 321 12 War as Work 334 Appendix: The Surveilliance Protocols 345 Acknowledgments 353 Notes 355 Bibliography 397 Index 413
Sönke Neitzel is currently Chair of International History at the London School of Economics. He has previously taught modern history at the Universities of Glasgow, Saarbrücken, Bern, and Mainz. Harald Welzer is a professor of transformation design at the University of Flensburg, teaches social psychology at the University of Sankt Gallen, and is head of the foundation Futurzwei.
Indian Express Nov 17 2012 This absorbing and disturbing book is based on transcriptions of secretly recorded conversations between Prisoners of War (POWs) in special "interrogation centres" set up by British and American intelligence during World War II. More than 10,000 German, Italian, and Japanese POWs passed through these centres between 1939-45. The resulting "surveillance protocols", discovered unexpectedly in 2001 by the German historian Sönke Neitzel, amount to some 90,000 printed pages. Neitzel and his co-author, the social psychologist Harald Welzer, use them to provide a fascinating, if grim, picture of how members of the German armed forces (the Wehrmacht) saw themselves and the world in which they fought. The authors also discuss the application of their findings to the understanding of military violence more generally — for instance in the context of the notorious "Collateral Murder" video, whose release made Wikileaks famous in 2010. The authors insist that to understand the conditions under which people do violent things we must attempt to reconstruct their "frames of reference": the set of beliefs, expectations, filters and categories through which people perceive and interpret the world, and in terms of which they orient themselves and their actions. The adequacy of surveillance protocols as sources for such a reconstruction is another matter. For as the authors point out, the context in which a conversation takes place can limit or constrain what is talked about and how. The fact that soldiers rarely talked about emotions such as fear, uncertainty, or desperation, may tell us little about their emotional lives, if (as seems plausible) these were difficult topics to discuss with their interlocutors. Though death and killing occupied a large portion of their lives and thoughts, these POWs rarely use words like "death" and "killing" in their conversations. Instead, the language in which these topics are discussed involved many different registers —"fun" and "amusement", for instance; also adventure, hunting, and competitive sport. As the authors put it, the structure of these discussions mirrors that of video-game players, for whom the primary focus of activity revolves around skills and reflexes, and the results are measured in numbers — like number of kills and targets destroyed. The book's main argument is that the frames of reference which enabled soldiers to perpetrate so much violence had little to do with any explicit ideological orientation, whether anti-Semitic or National Socialist. Most soldiers were apolitical, and ideological positions didn't do much to predict or constrain their actions. What animated them were local frames and pressures — a sense of duty towards one's comrades and superiors, diligence to one's work regardless of its content, and a conception of honour and bravery — not abstract conceptions such as the "global Jewish conspiracy" or the National Socialist Volk. While extreme violence may seem an aberration, the qualities which enable it are, for the most part, unremarkable and widely shared. The rather chilling moral which the authors draw from this fact is that we should have less faith in our distance from violence: all groups are potential "communities of annihilation". The writer is a Visiting Associate Fellow, Centre for the Study of Developing Societies (CSDS), Delhi
October 22, 2012, http://www.amazon.com/review/R3SZGB6HOAW4LH I was ready to give the book a four or five star rating until I began reading the final three chapters. Chapter 10 consists of a mere five pages that try to place a cultural context on conflict "writ large" rather than the German military during World War II. A significant chunk of Chapter 11 deals with the author's thoughts on the Wikileaks video of an AH-64 Apache engaging insurgents in Baghdad. I had a hard time making the connection between the Wehrmacht's behavior in Russia, for example, and US Army attack helicopters operating in the Iraqi capital during the height of the "Surge." The sheer difference in scale, for one thing, is a legitimate cause for concern when making such comparisons. Chapter 11 also discusses Americans in Vietnam where the authors would perhaps once again have been better served by focusing on German soldiers in World War II. Explain THEIR actions rather than trying to put them into "context" by comparing them to American soldiers in more recent conflicts. [clearly, the American view would rather not see the US role in Vietnam or Baghdad compared with the Nazis. ]