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The Mind's I: Fantasies and Reflections on Self and Soul

Douglas R. Hofstadter and Daniel Clement Dennett

Hofstadter, Douglas R.; Daniel Clement Dennett;

The Mind's I: Fantasies and Reflections on Self and Soul

Basic Books, 1981/ Bantam 2001, 512 pages

ISBN 0553345842

topics: |  philosophy | brain | ai | psychology


A set of fascinating readings on the mind, identity, brain transfer,
consciousness, empathy for machines, etc, drawn from science fiction,
philosophy, literature, and indefinable genres in between.

Every piece has a small discussion called "Reflections" following it, where
DRH and DCD raise some thought-provoking ways of looking at the piece.

Includes several selections from Hofstadter's  Gödel, Escher, Bach.

Borges and Myself


In the first selection (genre undefinable) Borges unfolds a delightful identity
crisis - he is split between the public Borges, the writer, and the man who
is thinking these lines...  (Here is an excerpt, from a slightly different
translation.)

	It is to this other man, to Borges, that things happen. I walk along
	the streets of Buenos Aires, stopping now and then - perhaps out of
	habit - to look at the arch of an old entranceway or a grillwork
	gate; of Borges I get news through the mail and glimpse his name
	among a committee of professors or in a dictionary of biography. I
	have a taste for hourglasses, maps, eighteenth-century typography,
	the roots of words, the smell of coffee, and Stevenson's prose; the
	other man shares these likes, but in a showy way that turns them into
	stagy mannerisms. It would be an exaggeration to say that we are on
	bad terms; I live, I let myself live, so that Borges can weave his
	tales and poems, and those tales and poems are my justification. It
	is not hard to admit that he has managed to write a few worthwhile
	pages, but these pages cannot save me, perhaps because what is good
	no longer belongs to anyone - not even to the other man - but rather
	to speech or tradition. In any case, I am fated to become lost once
	and for all, and only some moment of myself will survive in the other
	man. Little by little, I have been surrendering everything to him,
	even though I have evidence of his stubborn habit of falsifiying and
	exaggarating. Spinoza held that all things try to keep on being
	themselves; a stone wants to be stone and the tiger, a tiger.  I
	shall remain Borges, not in myself (if it is so that I am someone),
	but I recognise myself less in his books than in those of others or
	than in the laborious tuning of a guitar. Years ago, I tried ridding
	myself of him and I went from myths of the outlying slums of the city
	to games with time and infinity, but those games are now a part of
	Borges and I will have to turn to other things. And so, my life is a
	running away, and I lose everything and everything is left to
	oblivion or to the other man.

	Which of us is writing this page I do not know.

	    - tr. Norman Thomas di Giovanni in collaboration with the author

DCD+DRH comment on it:

      Pete is waiting in line in the supermarket, and sees the queue in the
      crowd monitor.  Suddenly he realizes that a man in a overcoat carrying
      the large paper bag is having his pocket picked... he raises his hand
      to his mouth in astonishment, and notices that the victim's hand is
      moving to his mouth too. Pete suddenly realizes that _he is the person
      whose pocket is being picked!  This dramatic shift is a discovery:
      before, he was thinking about "the person in the overcoat", so he was
      thinking about himself, but he wasn't thinking about himself as
      himself_; he wasn't thinking about himself "in the right way".

      Would this ability apply also to a robot describing itself?  21     ]

Proust

[I was reminded of this passage from Proust - see if you feel it deserves
being mentioned here.  Proust also sees himself as another, but it's an
illusion that passes:

    I opened the Figaro. What a bore! The main article had the same title
    as the article which I had sent to the paper and which had not
    appeared. But not merely the same title. . .  why, here were several
    words that were absolutely identical. This was really too bad. I must
    write and complain. But it wasn't merely a few words, it was the whole
    thing, and there was my signature at the bottom. It was my article that
    had appeared at last!  But my brain which, even at that period, had
    begin to show signs of age and to tire easily, continued for a moment
    longer to reason as though it had not understood that this was my
    article, like an old man who is obliged to complete a movement that he
    has begun even if it has become unnecessary, even if an unforeseen
    obstacle, in the face of which he ought at once to draw back, makes it
    dangerous.  - Marcel Proust, The Fugitive, Penguin, p. 579) ]

Harold J. Morowitz: Rediscovering the Mind


   Reductionism at the psychological level is exemplified by the viewpoint in
   Carl Sagan's The Dragons of Eden. He writes:
	My fundamental premise about the brain is that its workings -- what
	we sometimes call 'mind' -- are a consequence of its anatomy and
	physiology and nothing more.
   As a further demonstration of this train of thought, we note that Sagan's
   glossary does not contain the words _mind, consciousness, perception,
   awareness, or thought, but rather deals with entries such as synapse,
   lobotomy, proteins, and electrodes_.

Stainslaw Lem: The Princess Ineffabelle

from _The Cyberiad, tr Michael Kandel Seabury Press 1974 [DRH
praises the witty translation]

	[King Zipperpus falls in love with the Princess Ineffable in a dream,
	and wants to meet her.  A wizard shows him Princess ineffable in a
	digital simulation.  He is about to enter this simulated world,
	leaving his world for good, when he gets out of the dream, much to
	the disappointment of the scheming Lord High Thaumaturge.]

Terrel Miedaner: The soul of the Mark III Beast, 109-113


Can we have empathy for a machine?  This sci-fi story explores the
possibility.

A couple visits a scientist; he produces a little mechanical marvel.  When
switched on it purrs around trying to find electric sockets; finding one, it
inserts two antennae.  The scientist gives her a hammer and asks her to
"kill" it.  She agrees to try to "break" it.  But as soon as she wields the
hammer, it runs away every time.

Eventually the scientist tells her that it can sense the metal - but she can
easily pick it up, and she does:

       Through the comfortable warmth of its metal skin she
       could feel the smooth purr of its motors.

Now it is turned turtle on a workbench and she is again given the hammer to
kill it.  As soon as it's hit, one wheel is damaged and it lands on the
ground, and
	the beast began spinning in a fitful circle.  A snapping sound came
	from the underbelly; the machine stopped, lights glowing dolefully".

When she is about to wield the coup de grace, "there came from within the
beast a dound, a soft crying wail that rose and fell like a baby whimpering",
and seeing it lying in a "blood-red pool of lubricating fluid", she desists.

Daniel C. Dennett: Where am I?


In this fantastic thought-experiment (first appeared in his Brainstorms,
1978), Dennett is working for the Pentagon on a very radiocative retrieval
mission.  To protect himself, his brain is removed and connected to his body
via (a very large number) of tiny transmitters.   He wakes up from the
operation, all hale and hearty, and sees his brain in a vat.

      "Yorick," I said aloud to my brain, "you are my brain. The rest of my
      body, seated in this chair, I dub `Hamlet.' " So here we all are:
      Yorick's my brain, Hamlet's my body, and I am Dennett.
      	       [Yorick is the dead jester in Hamlet whose skull is dug up by a
	       gravedigger.]

      Now, where am I?

Argument I:  Must be in the brain.  For instance, if Yorick is
re-connected to some other body, then that person would have all Dennett's
memories, desires and concepts.  So that person would become Dennett - hence
Dennett must be in the brain.

Argument II: But if in the brain, then who would be punished if Hamlet
commits a crime?

Argument III: Dennett is wherever his mind thinks he is - based on the mental
"point of view".
{well, this is exactly the kind of stuff that kept me from doing philosophy!]

Finally, Hamlet is sent on the mission that Dennett has volunteerd for.
As he reaches the area:

	When I found the warhead, I was certainly glad I had left my brain
	behind, for the pointer on the specially built Geiger counter I had
	brought with me was off the dial.
	...
	all of a sudden a terrible thing happened. I went stone deaf. At
	first I thought it was only my radio earphones that had broken, but
	when I tapped on my helmet, I heard nothing.  Apparently the auditory
	transceivers had gone on the fritz. I could no longer hear Houston or
	my own voice, but I could speak, so I started telling them what had
	happened.

In the end, all contact is lost with the brain in Houston:
	I was faced with a new and even more shocking problem: whereas an
	instant before I had been buried alive in Oklahoma, now I was
	disembodied in Houston. My recognition of my new status was not
	immediate. It took me several very anxious minutes before it dawned
	on me that my poor body lay several hundred miles away, with heart
	pulsing and lungs respirating, but otherwise as dead as the body of
	any heart-transplant donor, its skull packed with useless, broken
	electronic gear.

So Dennett continues to have conscious thoughts - or is it Yorick -
indeed he "wracks his brain" about the "immateriality of the soul based on
physicalist principles":
	as the last radio signal between Tulsa and' Houston died away, had I
	not changed location from Tulsa to Houston at the speed of light?

Someone plays Brahms for him - there he was MAINLINING Brahms without a
ear! Sometime later though, he drifts off to sleep, and eventually, he finds
himself conscious again, but with a new face - bearded and a bit heavier -
it's actually a new body, Hamlet still lies at the bottom of the chute.  He
soon adjusts to this new body, which he calls Fortinbras [another character
from Hamlet].

Later he visits Yorick in the vat, and finds that they have developed a
computer, Hubert, which is an exact clone of Yorick.  Switching on and off
between Hubert and Yorick is completely imperciptible to "him". Eventually,
they also make a second body, which would then become a second Dennett... ]

A fascinating fable, one that I have told several others.

Further reading


John Locke, in his Essay Concerning Human Understanding (1690), wondered
about "the soul of a prince" entering "the body of a cobbler" so that the
prince's memories are intact.  Two anthologies on this theme exist,
Personal Identity (1975), ed. John Perry, and The Identities of Persons (1976),
ed. Amelie O. Rorty.
Also, Bernard Williams's Problems of the Self (1973).

Justin Leiber Beyond Rejection


	"I have my mind taped every six months, just to be safe." - Austin
	Worms.

ghouls : doctors who work with the body after an accident,
vampires: who work with the mind, reprogramming it from recorded
    "brain tapes"

In the Reflections, DCD comments that such programs may never be possible -
since brains are programmed in hardware, and not software alone.

Robert Nozick: Fiction 461


	I am a fictional character. However, you would be in error to smile
	smugly, feeling ontologically superior. For you are a fictional
	character too. All my readers are except one who is, properly, not
	reader but author.

This is actually a tract about religion, but it takes a while to get
there...

	Think of our world as a novel in which you yourself are a
	character. Is there any way to tell what our author is like?
	Perhaps. If this is a work in which the author expresses himself, we
	can draw inferences about his facets, while noting that each such
	inference we draw will be written by him. And if he writes that we
	find a particular inference plausible or vali who are we to argue?

	One sacred scripture in the novel we inhabit says that the author of
	our universe created things merely by speaking, by saying "Let there
	..."  The only thing mere speaking can create, we know, is a story, a
	play, an epic poem, a fiction. Where we live is created by and in
	words: uni-verse.

Goes on to consider the problem of evil: why would a good "author" permit
evil to exist? Especially, when an author includes monstrous pain and
suffering, does this cast doubt on his goodness?  Hamlet or Lear - their
suffering  is only in the book - so it is not real, is it?

But, you say, if author is writing us, for us the suffering is completely
real.

	There are anomalies in the world that we discover. The author of course,
	knows of them.  Perhaps he now is preparing to correct them. Do we
	live, in galley proofs in the process of being corrected? Are we
	living in a first draft?

Or is it that the author is also discovering about his characters even as he
is writing about them? Maybe he is surprised by what we are doing!

	When we feel we freely think or act on our own, is this merely a
	description he has written in for us, or does he find it to be true
	of us, his characters, and therefore write it? Does our leeway and
	privacy reside in this, that there are some implications of his work
	that he hasn't yet worked out, some things he has not thought of
	which nevertheless are true in the world he has created, so that
	there are actions and thoughts of ours that elude his ken?  (Must we
	therefore speak in code?) Or is he only ignorant of what we would do
	or say in some other circumstances, so that our independence lies
	only in the subjunctive realm?

Does this way madness lie? Or enlightenment?

Contents


                                (from kinokuniya bookweb)
Preface                                                ix
Introduction                                           3  (16)

I. A Sense of Self
   1  Borges and I                                     19 (4)
            Jorge Luis Borges
        Reflections                                    20 (3)
   2  On Having No Head                                23 (11)
            D. E. Harding
        Reflections                                    30 (4)
   3  Rediscovering the Mind                           34 (19)
            Harold J. Morowitz
        Reflections                                    42 (11)

II. Soul Searching
   4  Computing Machinery and Intelligence             53 (16)
            A. M. Turing
        Reflections                                    67 (2)
   5  The Turing Test: A Coffeehouse Conversation      69 (27)
            Douglas R. Hofstadter
        Reflections                                    92 (4)
   6  The Princess Ineffabelle                         96 (4)
            Stanislaw Lem
        Reflections                                    99 (1)
   7  The Soul of Martha, a Beast                      100(9)
            Terrel Miedaner
        Reflections                                    106(3)
   8  The Soul of the Mark III Beast                   109(10)
            Terrel Miedaner
        Reflections                                    113(6)

III. From Hardware to Software
   9  Spirit                                           119(5)
            Allen Wheelis
        Reflections                                    122(2)
   10 Selfish Genes and Selfish Memes                  124(25)
            Richard Dawkins
        Reflections                                    144(5)
   11 Prelude. . . Ant Fugue                           149(53)
            Douglas R. Hofstadter
        Reflections                                    191(11)
   12 The Story of a Brain                             202(15)
            Arnold Zuboff
        Reflections                                    212(5)

IV. Mind as Program
   13 Where Am I?                                      217(15)
            Daniel C. Dennett
        Reflections                                    230(2)
   14 Where Was I?                                     232(10)
            David Hawley Sanford
        Reflections                                    240(2)
   15 Beyond Rejection                                 242(11)
            Justin Leiber
        Reflections                                    252(1)
   16 Software                                         253(16)
            Rudy Rucker
        Reflections                                    265(4)
   17 The Riddle of the Universe and Its Solution      269(18)
            Christopher Cherniak
        Reflections                                    276(11)

V. Created Selves and Free Will
   18 The Seventh Sally or How Trurl's Own             287(9)
        Perfection Led to No Good
            Stanislaw Lem
        Reflections                                    294(2)
   19 Non Serviam                                      296(25)
            Stanislaw Lem
        Reflections                                    317(4)
   20 Is God a Taoist?                                 321(23)
            Raymond M. Smullyan
        Reflections                                    341(3)
   21 The Circular Ruins                               344(9)
            Jorge Luis Borges
        Reflections                                    348(5)
   22 Minds, Brains, and Programs                      353(30)
            John R. Searle
        Reflections                                    373(10)
   23 An Unfortunate Dualist                           383(8)
            Raymond M. Smullyan
        Reflections                                    384(7)

VI. The Inner Eye
   24 What Is It Like to Be a Bat?                     391(24)
            Thomas Nagel
        Reflections                                    403(12)
   25 An Epistemological Nightmare                     415(15)
            Raymond M. Smullyan
        Reflections                                    427(3)
   26 A Conversation with Einstein's Brain             430(31)
            Douglas R. Hofstadter
        Reflections                                    457(4)
   27 Fiction                                          461(4)
            Robert Nozick
Further Reading					 465(18)
Acknowledgments                                    	 483(1)
Index                                              	 484

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